I too used to think of Vince Li in an extremely negative light. Li listened to what he had to say before; the system should make it harder for thatto happen again. Tim let a blood-curdling scream. WERE YOUA HUMAN BEINGDESIGNED BY A HIGHER INTELLIGENCE? In Canada we have legislation in place that would acquit someone, or label them as not criminally responsible (NCR) for their actions, if mens rea was not present in an illegal act. Vince Li got on that Greyhound prepared to kill. DID LIZZIE BORDEN REALLY AX-MURDER HER PARENTS? If he gets it, it will be as if McLeans murder never happened, with nothing on the books even mentioning Li. Vince Li, who now goes by Will Baker, was granted full discharge Friday afternoon. [1] [2] Incident [ edit] Shell never get over this. Understandably so. In Canada, two elements are necessary to convict someone of murder: actus rea (the guilty act), and mens rea (the guilty mind). Now ask yourself if this individual would really ever consider going off his medication? How the public should be forced to take a chance on an unsupervised nut who committed the most barbaric act of public murder and cannibalism Ive ever heard of is plain stupid. He says he remembers what happened on a Greyhound bus bound for Winnipeg during that midsummer's nightmare in 2008. Real Criminals Referenced in Season Thirteen. God chose me as the killer and God chose Tim as the victim. Vince Li, seen here outside the Portage la Prairie provincial building last fall, goes on trial for the beheading death of Tim McLean. Vince Li, the accused in the Greyhound bus beheading of Tim McLean, appears in a Portage La Prairie court Aug. 5, 2008. 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This isn't a call to have every person who suffers from mental illness monitored forever by law enforcement; but after someone has committed such a violent, traumatic act, he or she shouldn't ever be completely "free.". Nor was he taking any when he boarded the Greyhound bus. They lost their loving son, brother, cousin and nephew. Not only did he have the knifehe also had plastic bags to store separated itemspackaging pieces for some future purpose. Visit us online, and feel free to reach out with your questions or ideas by going to arslonga.media. LINDY CHAMBERLAIN DID A DINGO REALLY GET HER BABY? "Kill them," he whispers into your ear. Vince Li, who now goes by Will Baker, was granted full discharge Friday afternoon. How in the world he came up with that figure is beyond me. Something to consider about killersthey can be very, very good actors. Pseudonyms will no longer be permitted. Heres where the system is flawed. By June of 201015 months after Li was absolved by the criminal justice systemhe started supervised release. WHO REALLY KIDNAPPED AND KILLED CHARLES LINDBERGHS CHILD? SUN DANCE WHY CUSTER REALLY LOST THE BATTLE OF THE LITTLE BIGHORN, JOSEPH WAMBAUGH INTERVIEWING CRIME WRITINGS MASTER OF CHARACTERS, MISTER BIG UNDERCOVER STING CONVICTS ANOTHER COLD CASE KILLER, GET YOUR EROTIC BDSM KINKS AT THE SOUTHWEST LEATHER CONFERENCE, AMAZON FREE E-BOOK NEW YEARS PROMOTION NO LIFE UNTIL DEATH BY GARRY RODGERS, MERRY CHRISTMAS & WHATSUP FOR 2019 WITH GARRY RODGERS WRITING, THE ASTOUNDING SECRET BEHIND LEONARDO DA VINCIS CREATIVE GENIUS, UNCONVENTIONAL CRIME WRITING WITH L.A. 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A man who was found not criminally responsible for beheading and cannibalizing a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus in Canada has been granted his freedom. I've said it before and I'll say it again; fuck PETA. Every piece of Tims body was defiled and strewn about the bus. This video answers the question: Can I discuss the mental health and personality factors that may be at work in the Tim McLean murder case? Li turned and made eye contact. WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT PERSONAL DNA TESTING. And what can potentially occur. Li was ultimately deemed not guilty by reason of insanity and sent to the Selkirk Mental Health Centre. Li held minimal paying jobs at Walmart and did paper deliveries. Li was institutionalized sometime before gaining his citizenship after being found by officers "following the sun", something he claimed God told him to do. God made me do it, Li said. Vince Li moved through the justice system quickly. August 5, 2008. To the average citizen, this case is more than a tragedy. Period.. And lawmakers had little control. (CBS/AP) WINNIPEG, Manitoba - Vince Li, the man who beheaded and cannibalized a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus in Canada, has won the right to be allowed to leave the grounds of the mental. Now that Vince Li was out of the courts and jails, he was in the care of mental health care workers. Its like theyve never ridden a bus filled with the common folks theyre supposed to serve. Please enter valid email address to continue. Right in full view of the audience, Li digested Tims eyes and part of his heart. It causes one to lose contact with reality, and will often cause one to experience hallucinations and delusions that the individual will believe with absolute certainty are real and true. Now, Im an international best-selling crime writer, deadly blogger & film content producer. That's an incredibly 90s haircut for 2008. Also got to legally change his name after being released as well. On the other hand, convicting someone for an act that they had no conscious knowledge or control over would be barbaric, and in Canada, we dont punish people for doing something they have no control over. Vince Li spared Tim McLeans family a lengthy trial. He was deemed not criminally responsible and received mental. DEFUND (ELEMENTS) OF THE POLICE BUT LET COPS BE COPS, BESIDE THE ROAD NEW BASED-ON-TRUE-CRIME SERIES BOOK #4, THE TRUE STORY ABOUT WHO REALLY STOLE JFKS BRAIN, WHY IT TAKES SO LONG TO MAKE A CORONAVIRUS VACCINE, WHY CASEY ANTHONY GOT AWAY WITH MURDERING HER DAUGHTER, FROM THE SHADOWS NEW CRIME BOOK RELEASE FROM GARRY RODGERS. ELISA LAMS GHASTLY DEATH AT THE NOTORIOUS CECIL HOTEL IN L.A. Li'sschizophrenia was undiagnosedat the time of the killing. "I'm not stigmatizing mental issues. On 5 March 2009, his killer, the 40-year-old Vincent Weiguang Li ( Chinese: ; pinyin: L Wigung ), [1] was found not criminally responsible for murder and remanded to a high-security mental health facility in Selkirk, Manitoba, where he was detained until his release on 8 May 2015. His brain was lying to him and convincing him of a reality that was not true. He motioned an invite to the seat. The victim's eyes and a part of his heart were never recovered and are presumed to have been eaten by Li. This means that someone must literally commit the act of the crime, and they must also be in a state of mind to consciously and willfully intend to do so, in order to be found guilty. Once upon a time, Vince Li posed no significant threat to the public, and then he went off his meds with no one knowing. On March 5, 2009, Vince Li was found not criminally responsible for the murder and decapitation of 22-year-old Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus near Portage la Prairie, Man. She told me of how she was left to her nightmares and, while Li was being treated with kid gloves, she was abandoned to seek therapy on her own to deal with her emotional trauma. But Li didnt go into a frenzy. Im a retired Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) Serious Crimes detective and investigator with the British Columbia Coroners Service. Vince Li, who now goes by the name Will Baker, beheaded and cannibalized a fellow passenger, Tim McLean, on a bus just outside Portage la Prairie on July 30, 2008. On March 5, 2009seven months after Li took Tims lifeVince Li was found not criminally responsible due to a mental illness. Blood-dripping knife in one hand. An Ontario father has become an advocate for people designated "not criminally responsible" after his daughter was nearly stabbed to death in 1999. I am not at risk for anybody. Parts of the victim's body, placed in plastic bags, were retrieved from the bus, while his ear, nose and tongue were found in Li's pockets. He knows that the medication works to keep the voices away.". Its bullshit. "He was on the lookout for aliens as such, and the voice of God told him that Tim McLean was an alien and he needed to destroy him lest Tim destroy other people," Summerville said. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/vince-li-discharge-1.3977278. University of Winnipeg and downtown community newspaper. THE BIZARRE DEATH OF THE TOXIC LADY GLORIA RAMIREZ, WHY FIFTY SHADES IS PHENOMENALLY POPULAR WITH (some) WOMEN. Hed also been injured in his attackstandard police procedure even for as bizarre a crime as this. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! Li's trial began on March 3, 2009. At the same time, he is being treated, not cured, which means there is always the potential of his masked man coming back. Li later attempted to drive the bus away (but was halted since the driver used the bus's emergency immobilizer system) and then tried to climb out of a window after a day-long stand-off. A man in a mask is now standing inches from your face, holding one gun against your body and pressing another into your hand. But you simply cant kill a deranged man in this situation. On March 5, 2009, McLean's killer, a 40-year-old Chinese-Canadian named Vince Li, was found not criminally responsible (NCR) for the murder, and . Once upon a time, Vince Li posed no significant threat to the public, and then he went off his meds with no one knowing. Enter your email address below and get your FREE eBook IN THE ATTIC A Psychological Thriller Based on a True Crime Story. While in the hospital, Li was sued by several of the bus's passengers and that had been present during the attack, as well as McLean's family members. By submitting a comment, you accept that CBC has the right to reproduce and publish that comment in whole or in part, in any manner CBC chooses. DeDelley wants Li kept in a mental hospital permanently, but expects that he will gain more freedom every year until he is eventually released. As the bus pulled out of the stop, he moved to the back, to the vacant seat next to McLean. Its the overall picture thats never been put to rest. Subscribe to it anywhere you listen to podcasts. He was quickly locked up in a secure hospital facility where monitoring and treatment commenced for an indefinite period. Its too high a risk. Li wanted a victim and Tim McLean was it. Comments on this story are moderated according to our Submission Guidelines. It is because of Lis ardent commitment to treating his illness that he has recently been granted an absolute discharge by the Manitoba Criminal Review Board, as of Feb. 10. Aghast, they stared as Li sawed and hacked. Bit by bit, Vince Li was put back on the street. I don't believe in aliens. YOURE ON DEATH ROW WHATS YOUR LAST MEAL? They neglect victim and family rights. Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders (5th ed.). Terrified passengers screamed for the bus to stop and massed for the door. Public protection was not. The killer was released from the high-security mental health facility in 2017. He settled in Winnipeg and worked in Edmonton. Li has an incurable disease that makes him do terrible things, Carol says. Vince Li was sitting near the front. "But what would be unforgivable for me would be to not do anything to try to prevent this from happening again by the same perpetrator. Try to imagine what Li went through when he woke up from his psychotic episode, when he realized that the reality he was operating under wasnt true. 2023 Six Nations Championship Round 3, Stadio Olimpico, Roma, Italy 25/2/2023 Italy vs Ireland Italy's Pierre Bruno scores a try Mandatory Credit INPHO/Giuseppe Fama. When a court deems an offender "not criminally responsible" (NCR), it accepts that a crime was committed under these sorts of conditions. Copyright 2023 CBS Interactive Inc. All rights reserved. A lack of mental clarity runs from psychiatric assessments to criminal verdicts to appellate decisions to legislative changes. I actually knew his sister when living in Banff. With my partners at Ars Longa Media, we released True Crime Psychology and Personality: Narcissism, Psychopathy and the Minds of Dangerous Criminals. When he realized the true magnitude of the horrible and grotesque things he had done, because his brain had lied to him. Then theres respect and support of victims. The Schizophrenia Society of Canada released an interview with Vince Li on Tuesday, saying Li's story needs to be told to "add a human touch to a horrible tragedy." The interview was. No one argued that. He was found not criminally responsible. The flaws disrespect protection of society. Manitoba's Criminal Code Review Board. Li was fired in Edmonton after a strange interpersonal altercation. A few years ago, a psychiatrist at the Selkirk Mental Health Centre near Winnipeg seeking limited freedom for Li set the wheels in motion by testifying that Li had a 0.8% chance of reoffending. He is seems to be still in shock after what he has witnessed. Around 8:30 pm, Greyhound 1170 was an hour west of Winnipeg on the . The Guy On The Greyhound Bus was Vince Weiguang Li, a 40-year-old Chinese immigrant to Canada who left Edmonton, Alberta eastbound for Winnipeg in the Province of Manitoba. Li might be a small player in the world of murders but hes not unusual. Since that time, Li has undergone nearly nine years of psychiatric . Li claimed he was not criminally responsible due to mental illness and the court bought it without calling traumatized witnesses and family members. He legally changed his name to Will Baker and currently lives free. He was shipped to a secure treatment facility. 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There is a reason why offenders deemed not criminally responsible are sent for treatment, not imprisonment, and why they are eventually released: if we accept that an illness compelled someone to commit a crime the man in the mask, pressing a gun into his ribs it is unjust to keep that person confined when that illness is under control. Convicting someone for only thinking about committing an illegal act, without them actually taking any action to do so, would be an example of thoughtcrime, something straight out of the famous dystopian novel 1984, by George Orwell. Weeks before the attack, he was fired from his job at Walmart. His brain was lying to him and convincing him of a reality that was not true. Some havent recovered today. As the bus stopped and horrified passengers fled, Li carved up McLean's body and ate portions of it. The innocent and unsuspecting victim was Tim McLean, 22, a carnival worker heading home for a break. Editorial: With no conditions, Vince Li is a threat. Finally, on February 10, 2017 Vince Lee was declared completely stable and reliable to function on his own, including regulating his own medseven though all psychiatrists agree schizophrenia is an incurable mental disease. Parents can often miss the first signs of schizophrenia because their adult children are living outside the home, but experts say treatment is usually more successful if started early. By 2015, Li was in a half-way house and only monitored for medication. (CBS/AP) WINNIPEG, Manitoba - Vince Li, the man who beheaded and cannibalized a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus in Canada, has won the right to be allowed to leave the grounds of the mental hospital where he is being kept, a criminal review board ruled Thursday. The innocent and unsuspecting victim was Tim McLean, 22, a carnival worker heading home for a break. The mother of Tim McLean, the man who was beheaded and cannibalized on a Greyhound bus, is speaking out about the decision to grant an absolute discharge to the man who committed the violent crime . Tim was clearly dead but Li wasnt even close to finished. Today, Vince Li is a free man. Li was cuffed and it was over. Then Tim leaned back against the window with his headphones on and drifted off to sleep. I dont think it matters if youre mentally ill or not. There was little regard for the publics protection that Linow Will Bakerwould be permanently locked up like the law should allow. Petrified passengers stood outside as traffic whizzed by. HOW TO WRITE A BOOK: JERRY B. 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Now that he has received an absolute discharge, the legal checks and balances that once kept his demons at bay have disappeared, and that poses risks for society, writes Robyn Urback. 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Li does not pose a risk to the public now that he is on his medication, according to the medical professionals who have treated him for the last near-decade. But he wasnt truly out of it. Maybe he moonlights as an actuary. A tall Asian man named Vince Li boarded the bus and sat toward the front in a seat by himself. Im going to tell you the nearly unspeakable story of The Guy on the Greyhound Bus. He removed Tims heart, lungs and liver then ripped out entrails. Most of the polled public agreed this was the right decision. But the justice system is treating him like he's cured: Robyn Urback | CBC News Loaded. Its really about victim and family rights as opposed to the killers. Justin Sarides is a student at the University of Winnipeg, and an advocate for empathy and reason. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time and a victim of circumstances much like the pedestrian creamed in a crosswalk by a drunk. Vince was granted supervised walks within his mental facility as voted by the provincial review board on the 3rd of June, 2010. Please note that CBC does not endorse the opinions expressed in comments. Unauthorized distribution, transmission or republication strictly prohibited. Cpl. I don't hear voices," Summerville quoted Li as saying. After he was deemed NCR, he was sent to the Selkirk Mental Health Centre for treatment. Subscribe now to read the latest news in your city and across Canada. When search suggestions are available use up and down arrows to review and enter to select. Tim smiled. See an eye witness describing the scene right after it happening (Winnepeg, Manitoba). The mother of a man who was beheaded and cannibalized on a Greyhound bus is criticizing a decision to grant complete freedom to the man who committed the violent crime. I'm looking forward to putting more of my content into audio and developing new, original podcasts on mental health topics. In 1992, Li graduated from University of Wuhan Institute of Technology with a Bachelor of Science degree in Computers. Call him Vince Li, or call him by his new alias Will Baker, but also call him what he is a cannibal killer who beheaded his victim in the back of a Greyhound bus, cut out his heart and ate a piece of it. Presence of mind from the driver prevented Lis escape into the crowd. Two of them and the driver attempted to save McLean, but Li chased them away with the knife. BROWN DEATH BOSTONS MONSTROUS MOLASSES MASSACRE. Li, who has since changed his name. IS SCIENTOLOGY A CRAZY CULT AND BIG FAT GLOBAL SCAM? We apologize, but this video has failed to load. Copyright 2023 CBS Interactive Inc. All rights reserved. Tims severed head by the hair in the other. Where critics of the case have a point is in the decision to grant Li an absolute discharge, meaning he is essentially free of the justice system, rather than a conditional discharge, whereby Li would be required to stick to a treatment plan or report regularly to a psychiatrist. Li paraded Tims lifeless headback and forthup and downalong the parked Greyhounds aisle. 5 KILLER TIPS FOR WRITING DEADLY CRIME FICTION, ELEVEN THINGS YOU CANT DO WHEN YOURE DEAD, NO WITNESSES TO NOTHING AMAZON BESTSELLER, STEMI 5 KNOWN REALITIES OF THE UNIVERSE, WRITING DEATH SCENES / PODCAST WITH THE CREATIVE PENN. If he gets it, it Will be as if McLeans murder never happened, with psychiatrist! Member at the University of Wuhan Institute of Technology with a Bachelor of Science degree in.! Listened to what he has witnessed knew his sister when living in Banff Police procedure even for as a... Had done, because his brain had lied to him and convincing him of a reality that awaited him that... 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