And Harvest was the same thing. And I think Christian leaders need to start stepping up. Continue Reading The Upper Room: John 15 Posted by Nate Murray The church said in essence, Tsk, tsk. I was a member of WCCC for many years. Well, one thing I did want to cover, and our time is getting to an end, but I know that you have dealt with having a sexual predator within your church. I came out of Wheaton College, as I know a lot of kids do when youre in a Christian environment and maybe see some disillusioning things and I just, it was really a hard spiritual time for me. In the early 2000s, as Stuart and Jill transitioned into minister-at-large roles and spent more time traveling to serve the global church, an additional voice was added in order to bless the supporters ofTelling the Truth. I dont think that he caused the elder board to resign. Briscoe And that that was something that taught you an awful lot about how elder board should deal with sexual impropriety or sexual abuse within their own walls. This is simply a place where I share the message of Gods unadulterated grace through my preaching sermons and bible teaching. Theres a lot of church boards that operate that way. Senior pastors dont need advocates. He has been married to Jill for more than 59 years and has three children and 13 grandchildren. Absolutely. WebPete Briscoe answers that question by pointing us to Paul as the perfect example of one who speaks with tender boldness. John and Nancy Ortberg had been at Willow Creek as pastors. Growing up in a ministry family, Pete watched and learned from his parents and witnessed the reach and power of Telling the Truth's media outreach. If they have the character to lead the accountability will help keep them you know, keep them honest, so to speak, you know, its kind of like when you put a bike lock on your bike that. Right? But this is the beauty of I think whats arisen is an independent media. When the when the mans lying on the side of the road, naked and bleeding, theyre the priests who cross the street. Pete has offered to I mean, it was a great time. And if you think its not, you know, go and look in your church building right now, if youre quarantined under COVID, or youre not gathering. So if you think of Willow as being a living thing, we are willing to put other things to death on the altar of preserving that organism. Powerful ministry at some points. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. Yeah. That is not a matter of policy. So when you have someone who is trusted, whos supposed to be an expert, you know, like a pastor, like a longtime senior pastor whos supposed to be a theological expert, and someone whos in authority like a senior pastor, people are willing to do things to satisfy that person that they would not otherwise do, even if those things seem harmful to another person. Jill I encourage you to start praying again and trust God to open doors for you in godly and meaningful fellowship. However, whenever he would do that quavering voice, etc., I would wonder how he could do that for all three identical services? Stuart Briscoe died on August 3 "of natural causes unexpectedly" according to a tweet from his son, Pete Briscoe. Subscribe Sign up for my daily email devotionals and to stay in touch! Theyve got a little bit of the guide part. I will always have my faith in Jesus but church especially WCCC has been a huge disappointment. But I have to say that in the middle of dealing with a lot of tall weeds and bugs, God has also given me some flowers and fruit trees to enjoy. 1 talking about this. And gratitude is where we must go in this time, as Kurt Baxter reminded us on Sunday. He now coaches Pete Briscoe | Brookfield WI. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? And that set the course for some of these more severe things to continue happening, and then to even get more and more severe. Mike is a dear friend and Im sad this day has come. I think thats dangerous. Guest Bios Show Transcript Spiritual abuse has become an increasingly hot topic, as more and more stories of bully pastors and hyper-controlling, Guest Bios Show Transcript After years spent in an abusive church, how do you heal? At the same time, hes writing a book and writing articles for Christianity Today about marriage purity. Pete Briscoe, our pastor at our church came out in support of the Dyers, which was bold, and it was brave. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Pete Briscoes father, Stuart Briscoe, who I loved dearly, hes not in good health, I wish he was, I wish he could hear this and Id wish him well. I was blown away. You have your identity rooted in something other than Christ, the centrality of Christ. Please know you are not alone. So since youve seen a lot of this kind of up close and personal through talking to witnesses and elders and staff people, how bad was the abuse at Willow Creek? Mike is a dear friend and Im sad this day has come. The Journal Sentinel reported: Elmbrook resignations are the latest to rock evangelical Christian churches. I think one of the ways that Willow tried to reckon with the situation was to permit Bill Hybels to retire from his role at the church. Right. It manifested even at the IT level at the church. Who hasnt given a friend a friendly kiss once in awhile? I have plenty of authentic friends just not at church. The Elder Board has accepted Petes decision, and his resignation is effective March 31, 2019. I dont know. Also I want to let you know that Judson University is planning to resume in person classes this fall for traditional transfer and adult students and its still not too late to apply. And so I thought it was so funny that James MacDonald had his house in the name of an entity called Vanilla Bean LLC. Why is it that nobody outside a very small group of women who had no power, really no position, why didnt others come to their rescue? Because it was lawyers advice, you know, and its like, where does the word of God play into our decision making? And I have other thoughts about that and how that all worked out. I think that he lost that. However, there should be a bubble level of character in Christ that we return to. Can you imagine what that does for book sales to be on stage at the Global Leadership Summit among people all over the world and touted as an expert in something? And today Im excited to be speaking with Mitch Little. And if youd like to find me online, just go to JulieRoys.com. God showed him through that sermon how his trip was actually isolating and began a process of transformation. He, Becky and their kids have been part of the fabric of BT for so long, it is These are people that may be in the cubicle next to you at work, who have an acuity for blending in to normal life. You know, I think, Julie, the other thing that was really whacked out about Willows elder board, and I didnt find this out until very late in the representation was they operated by design out of unanimity. May you and your family be richly bleSSed!!! Telling the Truthis the international on-air and online media ministry that distributes the teaching content of uniquely-gifted Bible teachersStuart and Jill Briscoeto help people know Christ and experience Life in all its fullness. He was like one of these, I think until Scot decided to speak up, it was, Willow had credulity to say, These are people outside our tribe who are criticizing us. Character always has to come first in hiring, then competence, and then chemistry. But it really had the tone has to be set by leadership for a culture of goodness. So appreciate. Well, again, Joining me today is Mitch Little a partner with Scheef & Stone in Frisco, Texas. There are therapy notes to support her story. This is Chicago Tribune. This is people who are dissillusioned, who wanted big jobs at Willow and didnt get them. But when Scot, the the intra tribal dissenter steps up and says, This is wrong, things shifted. You know, I believe in spiritual strongholds and things like that. I hope someday I can overcome this cynicism because I need Church as it should be. WebIt is with heavy hearts that the Elders of Bent Tree announce that Pete Briscoe has submitted his resignation as Senior Pastor. Leave them alone. I can see the elders (more than half of which were women), and people in general saying, It was only a hug. "For many of you, he was preacher, pastor, mentor or friend. Their board operated by unanimity as well. I appreciate you so much and look forward to visiting with you again soon. And he committed sex acts with her. Yes, in the course of representing these women, it became obvious that this was not what Ill call an echelon or tier leadership problem, just at Bill Hybels level. And so I hope your listeners understand what I mean, when I say this, thats how good God is that he can use people who are even morally bankrupt, to bring people to himself. And the thing that is astonishing to me, you used the issue of emotional vulnerability is that, you know, a lot of times our strengths are our weaknesses. Yeah, yeah, I think I think thats a good word to Julie. You have to have unity among your vocational staff at the church about, you know, key issues like how do we treat other people? I know about the deleted emails. And now lets put that in the past. Willow did not want to reckon with the deformed culture that had manifested underneath Bills leadership. Like so many of you, I love Pete. So to some extent, we all have a measure of hypocrisy. So a young person in our high school ministry. WebSince that time he has ministered on every continent, written more than 40 books, pastored a church for 30 years, and founded a media ministry called Telling the Truth which now broadcasts daily worldwide. They have a responsibility to the larger church to speak. The other thing I wanted to talk to you about in you mentioned this in earlier discussion we had about the identity of elders and how so often, and I dont think its just elders, I think its a lot of the senior pastor leadership and staff that their identity tends to become enmeshed with the success or failure of the organization theyre a part of. Your browser does not support JavaScript. Julie, thats whats so interesting about this story to me as I got deeper into it, I started to understand That, you know, when you go to the movies, and you see a story, you expect, okay, that guys the villain. Pete grew up in a home with intelligent and committed parents: both May God lead your next steps and may you find ways to use your gifts from a place of health. Those are the good guys. And the people in this story are complex characters. And Willow lost the battle of PR on social media. Also, major problems. That goes to the guarding role that Attorney Mitch shared. It is not a building. How are you? So its more than flirty words or suggestions. Heres my belief, Julie, I think the church at large, the big leaders in evangelicalism, we can name names if we want to, and Im sure that people have names on their mind when theyre hearing this, Why were they silent? Then, I did what all good Christian college students did at that time I acquired a boot-leg copy of the drama and listened to it several times on my own. There was a period of time, Ill call, The Great Loneliness after that Chicago Tribune article came out, where they were radioactive. WebPete Briscoe is a podcaster and evangelical pastor. He now coaches Pete Briscoe | Brookfield WI. David Jankowski. He even cites a conversation with Darrell Bock, a member who disagrees with the elders but who also says it is not an issue worth dividing over. Judson is located just 36 miles outside Chicago on a beautiful 90 acre campus. And unless theyre pollinated by hand, on the one day that the bloom opens, they wont make anything. And wasnt there something with Bill Clinton coming to the church and speaking? WebPete Briscoe answers that question by pointing us to Paul as the perfect example of one who speaks with tender boldness. And I thought, I think I knew what he was doing when he named it that, but heres why I think its so ironic. Really what it is, Julie, if we want to get down to it and go to spiritual or biblical terms, these are these are works of the flesh when were not led by the Spirit. I dont think I could survive the corruption I see today had I not seen so much thats good and beautiful in the church growing up. But essentially, it was the board being asked to deal with matters of policy and then all matters of implementation really get left to the vocational staff in the church. Just what I call a deformed leadership culture at the church where certain things became acceptable that shouldnt. At that age, I had never had someone in spiritual authority lie or manipulate me. You have to have a strong culture of accountability. And then everyone could say, Oh, how sad that that one person did that one thing. And really, I came back to the Lord at Willow and He used that church to help me reestablish my relationship with Him and with His church. Because they were required to move by unanimity. They made a lot of friends a lot of money over the years selling books, promoting programs, platforming them at conferences, platforming them at the Global Leadership Summit. The Elder Board has accepted Petes decision, and his resignation is effective March 31, 2019. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. Hes a complex character. Im so glad that theyre godly men like you serving. I think one of the things that happens in churches, from a deformed leadership standpoint, is requiring boards to operate in unanimity or using unity as a cudgel against people who have firm convictions about things. I think the load needs to be shared. I know for a fact that his article was circulated among the staff at Willow, and they crossed the Rubicon of credulity. If youre looking for a car I encourage you to visit my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. It was everything from Vonda Dyers situation of being asked to come up to Bills room and talk leadership and a forced kiss, you know, a grab around the waist. Yeah, I just saw you ran a story on MacDonalds massive mansion in Illinois being held in the name of Vanilla Bean LLC. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. Thats what he was. Pete has offered to And I think it wasnt a problem, Mitch, because everybody always agreed with whatever the senior pastor wanted. WebIt is with heavy hearts that the Elders of Bent Tree announce that Pete Briscoe has submitted his resignation as Senior Pastor. Well, and thanks so much for listening to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. and so I almost feel like the elder boards are there to keep the honest person honest. Pete is the son of Jill and Stuart Briscoe. Well, early on in the process after the Tribune article, we had to make a decision, How are we going to fight a machine of this size that is basically promulgating lies about these women and their families and their supporters? And I reached out to people that I already knew within, you know, the watch blogging community. The news of Petes resignation landed heavy on my heart. Pete Briscoe was Senior Pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, TX for nearly 30 years. They had these Global Leadership Summits. Thats a rhetorical question. Its designed to be fought asymmetrically. How did that all happen? Although theres been some. But it just has not really looked like true repentance in so many ways. Yeah, that is super dangerous. Was there any evidence found that he actually had an affair? And you made the statement that if you have the character to lead, you dont need a manual. I wasnt throughout the representation. WebSince that time he has ministered on every continent, written more than 40 books, pastored a church for 30 years, and founded a media ministry called Telling the Truth which now broadcasts daily worldwide. How does our elder board navigate things differently with that Pastor? And you mentioned to me that there were some stop signs along the way. Gifted with wisdom, discernment, and a bit of English humor, the Briscoe's bring God's Word to life. And these men are good actors. I did live it. Is that correct? There was another documented case where he had oral sex with his assistant back in the 90s at WC. Below is a link to a PDF of the article World Magazine did on a sex abuse scandal involving VOM. It was like trying to fit a battleship through a set of French doors. And where does whats legally expedient for our organization? So, Mitch, how is it that a lawyer from Texas ended up representing victims of sexual harassment at a mega church in Chicago? Pete grew up in a home with intelligent and committed parents: both This is the kind of thing that you would expect from someone whos cruel and not in relationship with Jesus. He has been married to Jill for more than 59 years and has three children and 13 grandchildren. Id like to share a few things as we navigate this loss together. (etc. Hi Julie, my name is Teresa and I was wondering if Voice of the Martyr was a good place to donate. And basically, my understanding is his cavalier attitude was, Well, Ill just pick up and Ill open a new church down the street [if] you dont you dont like me the way I am.. I was kind of thrust into the middle of it out of love for wanting to help my friends and man, that thing escalated pretty quickly. I mean, you dont need to be trying to fit a round peg into a square hole, because it is gonna manifest itself in bad ways. I think there were a few major events. Just go to BuyACar123.com. Everyone I knew from childhoodparents, grandparents, pastors, Sunday School teacherswas upright and honest. and Im going to butcher the title. It manifested at the Human Resources level. Stuart and Jill Briscoe have always had a passion for teaching God's Word and speaking Truth into people's hearts and moving them toward God. Why did so many look the other way for so long? I think its Pat Baranowskis story that ran in the New York Times that actually caused that. Pete is the son of Jill and Stuart Briscoe. Heres my belief, Julie, I think the church at large, the big leaders in evangelicalism, we can name names if we want to, and Im sure that people have names on their mind when theyre hearing this, Why were they silent? The woman had come forwarded, but then later recanted her story. The church is nondenominational and has woman pastors and elders. And we need to start on the work of reconciliation and repentance now. And you have two or three board members who go, I dont think so, they did nothing. And I think there is a healthy fear. Yeah. I just, Im amazed that they were in such geographic proximity to one another dealing with almost the exact same problem. And heres what we have to do as people leading churches, okay, you have to understand what the signs of grooming are so one of the things that I did that really helps me, my good friend, Boz Tchividjian, put out a book through his organization G.R.A.C.E. I think these women would still like to know the answer to that. At one point, the elder board at Willow became what people call a policy governance board. How do you get people to come to church when there are more authentic people in the bars? Its not okay. So Mitch, thank you so much for taking the time to join me today. If you go back through Willow Creeks archives, you can see all the, you know, the authors of books who came in and were platformed at Willow Creek. Churches sometimes need advocates outside their system. You have to have a lead pastor who creates a strong culture of accountability. And some of it also involved a culture that was willing to cover for wrongdoing. I think the larger the platform, the more rigorous the accountability needs to be. I attended Willow for seven years. Nobody has said they had intercourse with Bill. In our church, we have a no tolerance policy. Pete Briscoe, Stuart and Jills youngest son, was a key contributor to the ministrysteaching team from 2003 to 2021. I think it took courage. Dear anonymous. Subscribe Sign up for my daily email devotionals and to stay in touch! And it turns out there were a lot more women who had been affected by Bill Hybels. What eventually broke the culture of secrecy and protection? I was the senior pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship for nearly 30 years. Do you understand what Im saying? I am thrilled to be here. Yeah, were all saints who sometimes sin. As I look back on my own four years on staff, Im thankful for the teaching and leadership that Pete Briscoe has brought to Bent Tree, and I know that so many of us have been impacted by his attention to the Lord and quick obedience to however God leads him. Bill Hybels and Bill Clinton, you know, developed a friendship over the years that at least what Ive discovered in my research, there was an invitation for Clinton to come and speak at the Global Leadership Summit, and a confrontation with the elder board about that because Clinton was on the heels of an adultery scandal. And presented them with the information, he essentially tossed it to the side and said, So what?, No consequences. It is also the church in which Pete Briscoe, my former wonderful pastor, grew up in. Briscoe stepped down as senior pastor at the end of 2000 but remained involved in the church and active in overseas missions. Pete Briscoe, our pastor at our church came out in support of the Dyers, which was bold, and it was brave. I think youre absolutely right about that. We were talking a little bit about the elder board. Id like to share a few things as we navigate this loss together. Amen. https://www.billionbibles.com/voice-of-the-martyrs.html. So, while I have strong feelings about this, as you can imagine being a lawyer, but at all points, legal advice has to be subservient to Scripture. But we dont have time on this podcast. And he came back and said, I cant do this anymore.. A man who "dedicated his life to sharing Gods Word with the world" has died at the age of 91. He even cites a conversation with Darrell Bock, a member who disagrees with the elders but who also says it is not an issue worth dividing over. And Ive been a critic of megachurch multi-site model. Petes leadership at Bent Tree casts a long shadow with a legacy that will endure. Scott Dyer was the worship pastor at Bent Tree Bible fellowship. Thank you so much. I was blown away. which Hybels assented to including you know, repenting for his behavior and not talking about politics and some other things as well. It was the summer of 2000, and I was a college student on staff at Pine Cove Christian Camp. And not elevated above it. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! It was stunning to me. Again, thanks so much for joining me today. The Journal Sentinel reported: Elmbrook resignations are the latest to rock evangelical Christian churches. But so far, I havent seen that. And someone Im extremely glad is serving in church leadership. About Stuart and Jill Briscoe But youre right. And thats one of the things that I just come back to is that the word hypocrisy in the Greek the word that comes from that means actor. Yes, probably a number of your listeners are aware of the situation where the Ortbergs and Mellados had tried to report to the board an alleged long term affair that Bill Hybels was engaged in and the church hired an outside investigator to investigate the situation. I mean, that is just huge. Bent Tree is a multi site mega church in the Dallas Fort Worth area thats had its own share of crises over the past several years. Briscoe Telling another woman, how she looks in a dress and how it accentuates her body, everything up to an alleged affair, to Pat Baronowski, Bill Hybels longtime assistant, stating in the New York Times said Bill Hybels made her obtain pornography and they watched it together. Lead pastor who creates a strong culture of secrecy and protection Im sad this has. 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